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  • http://www.grabaclue.com/perry Perry

    Good review.  A couple of comments:

    Both Windows Phone 7 and the Windows 8 Consumer Preview support the tap-and-hold feature for foreign characters on virtual keyboards.

    I use a BookBack “cover” from DodoCase on the back of my iPad.  It protects well and is thin enough that I bet you could use it with this keyboard case and it would fit.

    • cgavula

      Thank you – that is good to know because their foreign keyboard support up to and including Windows 7 (not WP 7) is abysmal.  I’m glad to hear they took the cue and are implementing better foreign language support.  Simple multi-language keyboard support is something I’ve enjoyed on my iOS devices for a long time now and I was thrilled when Apple extended it to the desktop.  Android was slow with foreign keyboard support and their extended character display support varies widely from application to application. Not a great scene. I’m glad to hear that MS is doing the right thing in their next release (and their current phone release)!

      And thanks for the recommendation – I will check it out!

      • http://www.grabaclue.com/perry Perry

        I’ve never heard of a hardware keyboard that supports tap-and-hold for this sort of thing.  They always just repeat the character when you hold the key.  Where the foreign characters appear when using a hardware keyboard?  Somewhere on the screen?  How would you select them?

        Seems to me like this really shouldn’t be listed as a negative for the Logitech keyboard since none of the others have it either (unless I’m mistaken about that).

        • cgavula

          I appreciate what you are saying, but I must disagree.

          This keyboard (and other’s like it) are offered as replacements to the virtual keyboard.  As such, I think it is a perfectly valid thing to point out that it lacks a feature ) that the virtual keyboard does have, especially since you have to go through extra steps to pop up the virtual keyboard while you are using this one.  I do think it would be inappropriate to use it as a reason to downplay this keyboard compared to a different hardware keyboard, but I didn’t do that, I simply pointed out that this lack is a negative, especially in my case since I am dependent on the service.  Since they don’t mention this lack on their packaging, I think it’s valid to point it out here and characterize that lack as a negative.

          And it can be done.  On my laptop, which only has a hardware keyboard, of course, when you press and hold the key, there is a little pop up that displays the alternate characters and you tap 1, 2, or 3, to select the one you want.  Only keys like the period and the dash auto-repeat.  I really believe that this is something that these manufacturers could program in their keyboard firmware and should.

          That said, I think that, other than that lack, this is a really good keyboard.  Even with this limitation, it has becoma a “daily driver” for me.  I use it frequently and I recommend it to people who see me out with it.

          • http://www.grabaclue.com/perry Perry

            I just picked up one of these at Best Buy this afternoon. I haven’t used it much yet, but I’m amazed by how thin and sleek it is.  The photos online really don’t do it justice.  Also, I can verify that my iPad 2 with the BookBack fits in it just fine, although now I’ve got a bare metal case showing on the back of the keyboard this time.  Would have been nice if they had put some sort of padding on it.  Maybe the folks at DodoCase will come up with some of BookBack solution that works for it…

  • cgavula

    By way of an update, I heard from Logitech and they confirmed that they do NOT support tap and hold characters in the product and they gave no indication that it is in their plans.  Unfortunate, but the keyboard is excellent otherwise!

  • Kendb

    The Adonit keyboards get the additional characters by using combinations of Opt and Shift keys. Eg Opt + ‘ then type e comes out as é. Or Opt + z = Ω.
    Could you try that for us on the Logitech please?

    • cgavula

      Yes, those characters are supported, but those aren’t the ones I’m referring to. I’m talking about the extended characters that you get by pressing and holding characters on the virtual keyboard. For example, when you press and hold the “z” key you can choose from ž, ź, or ż. When you press and hold the s key you can also choose ś, ß, or š. And so on. Those options are NOT accessible from this (or any) of the physical iPad keyboards I’ve tried and I think this is something that ought to be corrected if these are truly going to act as replacements for the virtual keyboard. This press and hold technique works on a Macintosh (OSX) keyboard running under Lion as well, so there is no reason it couldn’t work.

      • Kendb

        Adding the little ` above characters covers most of my needs, but tap and hold is FAR more intuitive than hunting for the illusive key combination! Does anyone use auto repeat?
        Maybe the manufactures will catch on eventually.

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  • Andreas Volk

    Hi, I am German student, and my English is not perfect, so Escuse me for possible errors, or / and mistakes. I do have one trouble with Logitech Ultrathin Keyboard: when I am on safari trying to write the word in a search window the letters starts to repeat themself, and I can not stop this process. Like: llllllllllllllllllllliiiiiiiiiiikkkkkkkkkkkeeeeeee
    Can you help me? Or somebody else? My mail is awb222@web.de
    Thank you in advance

    Andreas

  • Melanie Anderson

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  • Shaun

    Any idea why when I press ‘h’ I get ‘h=’ and ‘n’ I get ‘nw’.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mary.hazlett.58 Mary Hazlett

    I have had problems with alternate keys popping up, from what i am reading, is that because i am holding keys too hard? as i type this, it is the first time using it that i haven’t had that happen; i am making a concerted effort to type lightly,

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